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Long Goal Server Disconnect
« on: April 09, 2018, 03:55:49 am »
 

_bobby_tables_

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I was on server #5 - Long Goal $15 billion - for April 7 & 8.  On the evening of the 8th I came back to my PC and was given the message that the session had been terminated by the server.  Logging back in shows the game had been reset.  Can I get an explanation as to why this occurred?  Thanks.
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 06:06:25 pm »
 

Chucky

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By checking the log in this case the restart year was reached.


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2018-04-09 02:15:51,809 [INFO ] - Current year: 2078 | players/max - companies/max: 2/18 - 3/15
2018-04-09 02:29:28,303 [INFO ] - Current year: 2079 | players/max - companies/max: 2/18 - 3/15
2018-04-09 02:43:04,692 [INFO ] - Current year: 2080 | players/max - companies/max: 2/18 - 3/15
2018-04-09 02:43:08,177 [INFO ] - ---- The game has been (re)started ----


The hint is in servers name at the end of line.  You can see it with !server
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<OTTD--5>This server's name is: .: n-ice.org :. #5 LONG GOAL -15 BIL|TEMPERATE|~19h|1960-2080
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2018, 06:23:05 pm »
 

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Thanks so much for checking.  I'll keep the end year in mind.
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 01:17:37 am »
 

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well, I can understand _bobby_tables_ question:
- in a server "LONG GOAL -15 BIL"
- in a server from 1960-2080 (120 years), it's ~27 hours;
- state |~19h| on server name isn't a server average;
- I remember those number been put there, on server name (alex879ro time) and was from not public tests so, biased times, that sadly keep being used!;

Even checking the highscores of server #5, that probably, most of them can be checked for the use of a known cheat. As I remember, I reported it several times, same as other players did!
But that's not the matter, I can explain to Chucky some cheats to be aware as I did to alex879ro.

As a reference:
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2018-04-09 02:43:04,692 [INFO ] - Current year: 2080 | players/max - companies/max: 2/18 - 3/15
2018-04-09 02:43:08,177 [INFO ] - ---- The game has been (re)started ----
There's already TIMEGOAL's (x4 and x5).

What _bobby_tables_ should ask was:
WHY server restarted if wasn't a timed goal and Goal wasn't reached? And if was a Goal server (not timed) why the short years range?

_bobby_tables_, you're welcome :)

Chucky: nothing against, I only want to make players think on settings ^^
« Last Edit: April 10, 2018, 01:19:24 am by ST2 »
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 09:02:50 pm »
 

Chucky

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<OTTD--5>This server's name is: .: n-ice.org :. #5 LONG GOAL -15 BIL|TEMPERATE|~19h|1960-2080
|~19h|  is pointing the average of game time to goal. If I consider the last 5 normal games it is similar, average: 94 game years x 13,5 minutes / 60 minutes = 21,25h game time (not even close to 27 hours which ST2 pointed out)


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WHY server restarted if wasn't a timed goal and Goal wasn't reached? And if was a Goal server (not timed) why the short years range?
to balance it because if I start later for example the average of game time is going down because of the better start conditions
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2018, 12:02:49 am »
 

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Chucky, good by me :)

_bobby_tables_: there's your answers ^^
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2018, 04:07:16 pm »
 

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hehe  :P
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2018, 01:50:46 am »
 

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well, I still think Chucky clarified why servers needs a years span. I just wanted to clarify couple things myself:

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|~19h|  is pointing the average of game time to goal. If I consider the last 5 normal games it is similar, average: 94 game years x 13,5 minutes / 60 minutes = 21,25h game time (not even close to 27 hours which ST2 pointed out)
- my words were: "- in a server from 1960-2080 (120 years), it's ~27 hours;" - that, for me, still continues to be ~27 hours, but I was speaking of the time span between game starts and forcefully restarts - that makes the difference;
- on server says |~19h|, last 5 games while "last 5 normal games it is similar, average: = 21,25h" - here it's the "small" discrepancy, and I bet the best times were done by cheating (old one);
- server #5 has 3 (three) registered games on the last 30 days, cheked on the post date. And I won't say that are bad players ^^

Anyway, just to say that time span is kinda short, and that server name needs to be adjusted! For the rest, _bobby_tables_ already got his answers :)
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 04:54:18 am »
 

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Thanks to everyone for the additional info!
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2019, 09:44:21 am »
 

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Dear All,
After some time playing short-goal maps only I tried the 15 billion one. I set up a nice sustainable company, replaced to the SH40 electro locos, typed !AFK and went to sleep.

The disappointment arrived in the morning that the company was gone.

I think we need to challenge the disconnection policy. If company is profitable and operates, it should not be removed, even if there is no client operating it. Either the client will re-join to boost up until winning conditions or game time span ends. Still some points should be given for the effort to reach them.

We can even say that forcing clients to stay online for a prolonged time is not eco friendly, as something needs to be up all the time. I guess OpenTTD players do not count for a significant global warming contributors, though, perhaps we could minimize this by adopting a slightly different mindset?

What are Your thoughts?
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2019, 11:00:14 am »
 

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The disappointment arrived in the morning that the company was gone.


to keep the company and exclude from autocleans you have to use the !saveme trigger
 

Re: Long Goal Server Disconnect
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2019, 09:18:21 pm »
 

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Thanks. Superb its simple as that. Will try, just now.  :D