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Complaints / Re: Forum behavour
« on: January 30, 2014, 07:26:02 pm »
I could not agree more. You put that very well, buddy 
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Complaints / Re: Forum behavour
« on: January 29, 2014, 09:19:10 pm »
Andreas, you should become a writer, you are clearly wasted talent 
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Suggestions / Re: Changing Moneytransfers
« on: November 28, 2013, 12:28:23 pm »
Here is someone who knows the rules very well. :-)
Yes, that's make it very clear now.
Yes, that's make it very clear now.
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Suggestions / Re: Changing Moneytransfers
« on: November 27, 2013, 11:12:28 pm »
Well, in the light is that someone uses transfers 1500x, knowing that he will gain inappropriate reward is mor or less exploiting. Thus the punishment is at place. On the other hand from point or development it also discovered system weakness.
Either way, flame discussions are sometimes fun to read, though I doubt anybody of you has need to show off.
Either way, flame discussions are sometimes fun to read, though I doubt anybody of you has need to show off.
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Suggestions / Re: Changing Moneytransfers
« on: November 27, 2013, 09:24:29 pm »
I feel urge to contribute at least once more.
Alex, as you pointed to OpenTTD general multiplayer rule abot abusing game features. I considered that one also before my first post and I thought that it does not fit this case. In my opinion the rule talks about abusing cheats ad exploits, which money transfer alone is not. Naturally, since n-ice runs CV goal, this thing becomes disputable, but I still incline to dont consider it cheat, rather to have it weakness of goal system.
I allow to diverge to my admin role at Novapolis. If someone found some way to quite unfairly, yet within rules gain uneven amount of points, let's consider moeny transfer (though we have it disabled), I would not of course like it, but on the other hand, I guess I would not punish it, unless it was stated in rules or something.
n-ice servers are not Novapolis, so that does not matter.
Also as I understood from this conversation, part of the punishment reason was that Kwissy lied. Well, that's not nice thing to do. People should not lie.
There is one thing you can do about money transfers though in system itself.
1) add it to rules
2) and more effective one, though not easier. Money transfer is done in OpenTTD by command system, which is traceable by admin port, which means xShunter can detect it. This can be used to substract the donated money from the goal, this making money transfers inneffective to reach goal. This one of course requires someone to implement it, which is the harder part with xOR vacation season :-)
Anyway, encore for kwissy. I still admire the feat of transferring 30 bln EUR, since you can donate max 20 mil at once, it means he had to do it 1500x? Unless there is easier way which I dont know of, this is freaking insane!
Alex, as you pointed to OpenTTD general multiplayer rule abot abusing game features. I considered that one also before my first post and I thought that it does not fit this case. In my opinion the rule talks about abusing cheats ad exploits, which money transfer alone is not. Naturally, since n-ice runs CV goal, this thing becomes disputable, but I still incline to dont consider it cheat, rather to have it weakness of goal system.
I allow to diverge to my admin role at Novapolis. If someone found some way to quite unfairly, yet within rules gain uneven amount of points, let's consider moeny transfer (though we have it disabled), I would not of course like it, but on the other hand, I guess I would not punish it, unless it was stated in rules or something.
n-ice servers are not Novapolis, so that does not matter.
Also as I understood from this conversation, part of the punishment reason was that Kwissy lied. Well, that's not nice thing to do. People should not lie.
There is one thing you can do about money transfers though in system itself.
1) add it to rules
2) and more effective one, though not easier. Money transfer is done in OpenTTD by command system, which is traceable by admin port, which means xShunter can detect it. This can be used to substract the donated money from the goal, this making money transfers inneffective to reach goal. This one of course requires someone to implement it, which is the harder part with xOR vacation season :-)
Anyway, encore for kwissy. I still admire the feat of transferring 30 bln EUR, since you can donate max 20 mil at once, it means he had to do it 1500x? Unless there is easier way which I dont know of, this is freaking insane!
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Suggestions / Re: Changing Moneytransfers
« on: November 22, 2013, 07:48:02 am »
Kwissy has the point. If you enabled money transfers, it is quite OK to transfer any amout.
Having money based goal while enabled money transfers certainly leads to blame the server owner, not the players.
Having money based goal while enabled money transfers certainly leads to blame the server owner, not the players.
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Suggestions / Re: Removing performance on small servers
« on: October 10, 2013, 06:45:35 am »
If cheating is sending money and buying vehicles, you can prevent that by disabling sending money and calculate the CV little differently, so the vehicle trick can not be used.
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: inter community tournament discussion
« on: September 15, 2013, 07:00:06 pm »
Hi Geert, how does it look like with organisation of he tournament on your side? Ready for next sunday?
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: inter community tournament discussion
« on: August 23, 2013, 09:00:44 am »
Thanks. Sound good. We can meet with cxc on IRC and prepare some dates then.
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: inter community tournament discussion
« on: August 23, 2013, 07:17:03 am »
Oh, Geert, I think you would be great. At current stage, we need to agree on some dates when to play the games, first on BTPro and inform and gather tournament players. And first game should be 3-4 weeks after announcing, so there should be enough time for some server operator to handle that.
Imus and Batt should be in charge from n-ice, but they are both quite unavailable for a longer time period :-( So the progress of tournament is stuck because we can not continue without n-ice part. I cant talk for n-ice, but if you could overtake the managing and be more reliable, it would be just tremendous. I would suggest to contact alex or Batt to talk about that.
Imus and Batt should be in charge from n-ice, but they are both quite unavailable for a longer time period :-( So the progress of tournament is stuck because we can not continue without n-ice part. I cant talk for n-ice, but if you could overtake the managing and be more reliable, it would be just tremendous. I would suggest to contact alex or Batt to talk about that.
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: inter community tournament discussion
« on: August 17, 2013, 08:02:07 am »
That we would do, if there was a representative from n-ice available.
How about you Geert, could you substitute Batt until he shows up? You are an admin too, arent you?
How about you Geert, could you substitute Batt until he shows up? You are an admin too, arent you?
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Suggestions / Re: Sharing Infastructures
« on: August 11, 2013, 08:13:18 pm »
No can do
Sharing industries requires patching server code and furthermore this thing also requires patched clients.
Sharing industries requires patching server code and furthermore this thing also requires patched clients.
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: inter community tournament discussion
« on: August 09, 2013, 10:00:32 am »
Batt is not on IRC too much, I havent seen him for several days.
The time has come to decide first game date, me and cxc are ready, just let us know please, when some of you has some time.
The time has come to decide first game date, me and cxc are ready, just let us know please, when some of you has some time.
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: inter community tournament discussion
« on: August 05, 2013, 09:36:08 pm »
hi,
how does it look like with n-ice team?
BTPro and Novapolis has already one, so we are waiting on you, guys
In advance, I prepared an overview of Novapolis side tournament game (should be 3rd in row), so you know what to expect.
http://www.novapolis.net/tour-detail
how does it look like with n-ice team?
BTPro and Novapolis has already one, so we are waiting on you, guys
In advance, I prepared an overview of Novapolis side tournament game (should be 3rd in row), so you know what to expect.
http://www.novapolis.net/tour-detail
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Tournaments & Battles / Re: Interserver tournament
« on: July 01, 2013, 07:23:36 am »
You forgot to realize, that we are the same community as Luukland's Servers was, just the name is different. Nothing personal, we both know that I was not admin there while you were banned. But former admin team informed me in detail on your actions against our ocmmunity, and from actions I can see you are doing here, I came to conclusion that nothing has changed, and the reason to ban still persists.
Should I tell in detail why you were banned back on Luukland/Novapolis? Some logs perhaps? Or how you returned on fake nicks to make malicious gossip on our forum? All you did back there was just destroying our community and annoying people there, and because we have our "strange" (you havent told us what is strange about it) policy and high standards of player's manners. Objectively viewing, the ban is still valid and justified.
BTPro representative for tounament is currently cxc. You did not show interest in dealing with it, yet you are talking here like you do. And it does not really belong in this topic, as it is really your personal matter. You should ask me in person first, but you had to pull it in public.
If you, as BTPro admin want to distract the tournament, say it directly, so we spare future nuisance.
Should I tell in detail why you were banned back on Luukland/Novapolis? Some logs perhaps? Or how you returned on fake nicks to make malicious gossip on our forum? All you did back there was just destroying our community and annoying people there, and because we have our "strange" (you havent told us what is strange about it) policy and high standards of player's manners. Objectively viewing, the ban is still valid and justified.
BTPro representative for tounament is currently cxc. You did not show interest in dealing with it, yet you are talking here like you do. And it does not really belong in this topic, as it is really your personal matter. You should ask me in person first, but you had to pull it in public.
If you, as BTPro admin want to distract the tournament, say it directly, so we spare future nuisance.